da1dartford
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DDAPS
Feb 27, 2009 22:49:08 GMT
Post by da1dartford on Feb 27, 2009 22:49:08 GMT
i aint banning anyone.......but make your point your dont My point is, was this an illegal stocking or not and were fish taken larger than agreed. Have DDAPS acted inappropriately or not. Have other fish in the waters that have been stocked going to suffer any disease threats. Were fish put under undue duress And yes I will be phoning my mate in the EA in the morning and will post on this thread his recommendations if he sais its cool doing that then what I was taught at college was lies
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da1dartford
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DDAPS
Feb 27, 2009 23:14:29 GMT
Post by da1dartford on Feb 27, 2009 23:14:29 GMT
considering there was a lot of people involved with the netting of the fish and for me and robin to be personaly attacked i cant see how only two people were told that they would lose their tickets if they spoke out dont you think all the people involved would have been told the same thing if this is so i would have heard and i didnt hear any such thing said Look that's just hearsay Jay, no one can prove that either way but can you or the committee guarantee that no member will loose their ticket over this, then the Mask might come clean and say who he is, I admit that he did not come across in agood light but on the forum I mod he would of been flushed if in pm to me he did reveal his true id mate. I aslo agree the comment of Robin is uncalled for, the thing is Jay I have known the people on that netting for more than twenty years why would they tell me rubbish, that warden defo said no pike over 35lb to be removed, the two biggest were weighed properly and only the delivery boys knew the weights as they weighed em before putting them into sutton. I can't prove it you can't the other way, its a catch 22 but what we can see is a section thirty yes.
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 0:06:56 GMT
Post by themask on Feb 28, 2009 0:06:56 GMT
It does,nt sound so silly now! cheers 4 the back up m8, its all gone very quiet,
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 0:55:32 GMT
Post by themask on Feb 28, 2009 0:55:32 GMT
show the section 30! not many sarcastic comments now is there! so j ure calling all the bailliffs liars, and stalker dave who has more credibility in his big toe than ure whole body!he dont lie! i mean the club only netted the lake cause someones said there was some big lumps in there, i do believe the f word was mentioned and because u all want some big lumps in sutton n kirby u ended up with the wrong kind ov 40. i mean u lot spent a week netting a lake 4 4 carp pretty disheartening wouldnt u say ! and fair enough the biggest pike netted would be nigh on 50ib that 1 made it back but u lot just could'nt resist a couple of slightly smaller ones
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 1:33:13 GMT
Post by blunkett on Feb 28, 2009 1:33:13 GMT
So what exactly is your problem with DDAPS? Obviously it runs deep as you've sunk your teeth so deeply into this one that it's clearly personal. I am far from DDAPS No.1 fan, I disagree with the majority of their policies for the lakes and have received more than one ban during my membership, some deserved some not so... These days I barely set foot on their waters so I have no reason to stick up for them whatsoever but this does seem to be a personal grievance more than anything else? You'd gain a whole lot more credibility if you spelled out your issues in a mature, constructive manner as opposed to childish "I know something you don't know" accusations.
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 8:54:44 GMT
Post by stone on Feb 28, 2009 8:54:44 GMT
i aint banning anyone.......but make your point your dont My point is, was this an illegal stocking or not and were fish taken larger than agreed. Have DDAPS acted inappropriately or not. Have other fish in the waters that have been stocked going to suffer any disease threats. Were fish put under undue duress And yes I will be phoning my mate in the EA in the morning and will post on this thread his recommendations if he sais its cool doing that then what I was taught at college was lies so lets see what the EA say about the matter, and put this to bed.
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 9:18:23 GMT
Post by dogman on Feb 28, 2009 9:18:23 GMT
Right 1st off to the people who threatened violence your out of order and just make yourselves look like mugs and I can assure you that the Mask did not mean to be so confrontational in his remarks, these are the 1st posts that he has made ever and he does not know forum etiquette, he said it like he would to your Face. Gary that bait comment was out of line and I apologise as he does use my gear and I feel responsible after giving him the nod about this good place. Right now for my ten penneth worth, why were the people who moved the fish told they will loose their permits if they say anything, that smells fishy. Now why where pike bigger than 35lb taken when it was requested that fish over that size remain on site, this was definitely a request by the lady warden as she likes a bit of pike fishing her self . Another thing why is sutton banged out with pike anglers lol if the club have nothing to hide why can't the section 30 be scanned and put up here for all to see and that will kill the rumours. Another point I would like to make is how come a section 30 for pike is issued this time of year when we all Know that this is the time that the pike spawn and removal would not be advised due to the stress on the pike and I have it on good word that the pike were all spawny as they should be this time of year. These are questions any self respecting angler would like answered and hope fully all club members too. Should we unmask the Mask that would be good, yes shoot the messenger and ban him, can't have that, when would we find out the truth about whats going on this can't be another xfiles surely, waiting for that section 30 to be posted lol Tight lines the Masks mate ithink the mask was right to let people no whats happend and exposing him would only create more problems...as for queing up behind pike angler at sutton big lake no one wants to see that its hard enough getting swims on thier as it is ....the lake needs more carp not poxy pike.. although i do understand people like fishing for them but they should come back next winter when the lake aint so busy with the start of the carp season...
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 9:56:19 GMT
Post by dogman on Feb 28, 2009 9:56:19 GMT
i heard the club spent 3000 pound on nets .now thats a lot of money for the fish they actuly got. would have been spent better buying and stocking properly . i think people will concurr that sutton big lake needs more carp not pike...
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 10:03:10 GMT
Post by stone on Feb 28, 2009 10:03:10 GMT
i heard the club spent 3000 pound on nets .now thats a lot of money for the fish they actuly got. would have been spent better buying and stocking properly . i think people will concurr that sutton big lake needs more carp not pike... £3k wouldnt buy you a decent 30lb fella...even if you could get hold of them
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da1dartford
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Stay out of my water you punisher
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 11:07:15 GMT
Post by da1dartford on Feb 28, 2009 11:07:15 GMT
i heard the club spent 3000 pound on nets .now thats a lot of money for the fish they actuly got. would have been spent better buying and stocking properly . i think people will concurr that sutton big lake needs more carp not pike... £3k wouldnt buy you a decent 30lb fella...even if you could get hold of them That 3k was a waste, you can't net a 12 acre lake successfully with a net unless its a man made lake with a uniform bottom, total waste of effort and resources, electro fishing is the way to go as they do on Cemex waters, that way we might of seen more carp removed like the saddle back common and a very large dark mirror, that one of the fluff chuckers who watched the netting told my mate about. Those fluff chuckers where actually targeting the big carp in there and fly fishing mixers when no one was about, and the pike were targeted too by those guys, tiny lures on fly rods must of been great sport hooking lumps like that on fly tackle.
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 19:32:28 GMT
Post by dogman on Feb 28, 2009 19:32:28 GMT
£3k wouldnt buy you a decent 30lb fella...even if you could get hold of them That 3k was a waste, you can't net a 12 acre lake successfully with a net unless its a man made lake with a uniform bottom, total waste of effort and resources, electro fishing is the way to go as they do on Cemex waters, that way we might of seen more carp removed like the saddle back common and a very large dark mirror, that one of the fluff chuckers who watched the netting told my mate about. Those fluff chuckers where actually targeting the big carp in there and fly fishing mixers when no one was about, and the pike were targeted too by those guys, tiny lures on fly rods must of been great sport hooking lumps like that on fly tackle. i watched em electro the resie.. littlebrook they could only stun six foot square of the boat caught loads of tench in the margins but that was it . when you get warter of that depth i dont think stunning is the way forward. your better off getting in the boys from sprarshalt. an getting a propar netting campain going with boys who no what thier doing . alternitivley let a serton amount of boys fish it . remote boats , rowing boats . it works just ask paul davis of darenth who has nolege of moving fish . only my opioin but a few cowboys with a few nets will never really proper....but good luck to them for trying afterall these are free fish..ive seen more fish removeed from a lake by coventional tacktics over time than piss arsing about with no noledge of fish removel with a few nets ....
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 19:49:51 GMT
Post by dogman on Feb 28, 2009 19:49:51 GMT
as a member of ddapps i would like to no what other members have to say about these ilegal imports into our water after all . we are the people who pay our money year in. year out an keep the club ticking over . if all of a sudden we start getting fish dying . an they have to close the lakes who loses out it will be us the members . payed our money with no fishing . WILL THEY REFUND US .. i dout it . i for one along with many other will have the right hump. can anyone put any imput in to this .as memberships are due . but with no unserton futre ahead should we stall them untill further notise....
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 19:51:04 GMT
Post by themask on Feb 28, 2009 19:51:04 GMT
well just got back from millwall match still no section30 posted! well ea will be touch on monday with the results of weather it was an illegel stocking of pike . still very quiet on here though! and dogman r u a hunter? as well as carper? anyway cheers 4 the support whoever u r.! by the way the ddaps office has been open all day so probably no section 30
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 20:03:25 GMT
Post by dogman on Feb 28, 2009 20:03:25 GMT
well just got back from millwall match still no section30 posted! well ea will be touch on monday with the results of weather it was an illegel stocking of pike . still very quiet on here though! and dogman r u a hunter? as well as carper? anyway cheers 4 the support whoever u r.! by the way the ddaps office has been open all day so probably no section 30 good call the mask this seems a hush /hush set up . i think the people who were thier doing the netting should come forward .. mask i can see your point . although some can not but as a member of ddapps i would like to no the truth of these ilegal imports .. and see a letter to all members explainig the stocking of these new fish.. im sure it will come out in the wash. but untill it does im with you . LET THE TRUTH BE TOLD......
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 20:23:43 GMT
Post by jayfisher on Feb 28, 2009 20:23:43 GMT
I have spoken to various members of the committee today and they have said that the section 30 is there for all members to see. All you have to do is ring the office and make an appointment with alan the office manager and he will show you all the relevent paper work as they are not going to put it up on an open forum and i think thats fair
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DDAPS
Feb 28, 2009 22:09:32 GMT
Post by chris vinnie on Feb 28, 2009 22:09:32 GMT
i heard the club spent 3000 pound on nets .now thats a lot of money for the fish they actuly got. would have been spent better buying and stocking properly . i think people will concurr that sutton big lake needs more carp not pike... money well spent you wait and see
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 0:53:22 GMT
Post by blunkett on Mar 1, 2009 0:53:22 GMT
You gotta be having a chuckle fella surely? There's at least 300 carp too many in that lake, if you can't catch out of there I'd be having a serious look at a set of golf clubs instead of rods!
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 7:30:13 GMT
Post by danny on Mar 1, 2009 7:30:13 GMT
I'm not taking sides here, but presumably if there is a section 30 (and I find it very hard to beleive that a club like DDAPS would do something like that without one) that section 30 will tell you that fish were permitted to be moved from water A to water B, it is not going to tell you about some verbal agreement between the land owner/lady warden etc and the club over the size of fish that should have been removed.
A bit silly of the land owner/lady warden to not be present at the removal though, if it were my lake and I had asked for certain fish to remain then I would make d**n sure I was there to see what came out. Not saying that the club are not trustworthy, but just the times we live in, I wouldn't trust anyone to do as I'd asked without me present.
PS I can't beleive d a m n has been filtered out. ;D
Fair play to the mask for having the balls to say what he has, you could have done it in a little more diplomatic of a way though, and you may have got a slightly more sympathetic view from some people.
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 9:09:17 GMT
Post by dogman on Mar 1, 2009 9:09:17 GMT
You gotta be having a chuckle fella surely? There's at least 300 carp too many in that lake, if you can't catch out of there I'd be having a serious look at a set of golf clubs instead of rods! listen mate i can catch fish . an fish the lake regular dont no were you got 300 to many from. your be lucky if thers 300 in total in the lake.. as for taking up golf .you probaly a fecking nody basher..
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 10:30:16 GMT
Post by spencer on Mar 1, 2009 10:30:16 GMT
You gotta be having a chuckle fella surely? There's at least 300 carp too many in that lake, if you can't catch out of there I'd be having a serious look at a set of golf clubs instead of rods! It could do with less bloody bream! There is alot of Carp in Sutton nowdays more than most of us old sutton boys were used to thats for sure.
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 10:36:53 GMT
Post by spencer on Mar 1, 2009 10:36:53 GMT
as a member of ddapps i would like to no what other members have to say about these ilegal imports into our water after all . we are the people who pay our money year in. year out an keep the club ticking over . if all of a sudden we start getting fish dying . an they have to close the lakes who loses out it will be us the members . payed our money with no fishing . WILL THEY REFUND US .. i dout it . i for one along with many other will have the right hump. can anyone put any imput in to this .as memberships are due . but with no unserton futre ahead should we stall them untill further notise.... It would seem that DDAPS are topping up stocks with permission from the EA and with the correct paperwork so not sure where the illegal comes from? If they are a little bigger than allowed then hey what a result for the Club and its members, as long as the lady knows and is ok with it then great! The current commitee are doing what the previous ones should have done, keeping the stock topped up in as safe a way as possible for the benefit of the clubs anglers. Should you stall your renewal? Yes, Ill gladly have your ticket for some winter runs.........
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 10:56:39 GMT
Post by stone on Mar 1, 2009 10:56:39 GMT
well i'm off to France tonight, glad to be leaving this thread alone to be honest.....like i said...if it still going on and nothings resolved by next sunday, i'm deleting this thread.
laterz fellas
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 11:54:01 GMT
Post by tallone on Mar 1, 2009 11:54:01 GMT
foock me i go away fishing for 3 days come back and world war three has broken out,,,
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bison
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 12:15:55 GMT
Post by bison on Mar 1, 2009 12:15:55 GMT
well i'm off to France tonight, glad to be leaving this thread alone to be honest.....like i said...if it still going on and nothings resolved by next sunday, i'm deleting this thread. laterz fellas fecking little hitler ;D.
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 21:47:32 GMT
Post by blunkett on Mar 1, 2009 21:47:32 GMT
Christ it's even easier to get a bite on here than down Sutton! ;D I know pretty much what's gone in there over the years and a seriously conservative estimation is 400 in the big lake... there's people catch 15 in a day ffs! When I used to fish there 30-40 fish in a season was good going, now I know people who have had 150+ how much easier do you want it?? Like you said, you fish it regular, good luck to you keep hauling them pasties if it makes you happy I'll stick to my "noddy" waters where I never see another angler and the fish aint got names...
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DDAPS
Mar 1, 2009 22:28:24 GMT
Post by tallone on Mar 1, 2009 22:28:24 GMT
lol i agree with matt on that one way too many carp, even a 150 fish in a water that size is too many,, hence why there are so many small fish in there and not enuf food
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DDAPS
Mar 2, 2009 1:04:47 GMT
Post by jeffe on Mar 2, 2009 1:04:47 GMT
In all the days of Carp Gods and now here etc etc I don't remember a more bonkers thread than this one.
By the time The Mask had called Blunkett a noddy I could hardly hold my aching sides. ;D ;D
Stick to cooking Blunkett. You know it makes sense. And I've just posted your Danson Park renewal. PMSL. ;D ;D
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DDAPS
Mar 2, 2009 2:04:52 GMT
Post by blunkett on Mar 2, 2009 2:04:52 GMT
Come on Jeff you've only been carpin a mere 20 odd years more than me .... you fecking noddy get your photos out from down Sutton show us all how to fish!! There's barely 300 fish in there after all... ;D
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bison
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DDAPS
Mar 2, 2009 9:47:56 GMT
Post by bison on Mar 2, 2009 9:47:56 GMT
You gotta be having a chuckle fella surely? There's at least 300 carp too many in that lake, if you can't catch out of there I'd be having a serious look at a set of golf clubs instead of rods! have you seen this kentish ;D.
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DDAPS
Mar 2, 2009 10:11:28 GMT
Post by jayfisher on Mar 2, 2009 10:11:28 GMT
I hope everybody is now happy with whats gone on with the netting !!
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